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Title: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on August 15, 2012, 11:10:58
Would anyone be interested in a group trip to find for one, or both of the above mentioned caches?

Given that both of these are more than an hour outside Ottawa, the more people we have, the better our results should be.

The proposed time for this excursion would be whichever Saturday or Sunday during ealry or mid-September works best.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: model12 on August 15, 2012, 12:09:51
Many eyes make light work for both of these caches, and remember that the East Gate of Algonquin Park charges by the car for day use until Fall.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on August 15, 2012, 22:04:21
Yes! For Deliverance. I've already done Mossback. Any Saturday or Sunday in September works for me.

I have 3 Binthairs left to do: Peel the Onion, Colourful and Deliverance. My plan is for Deliverance to be my last one. Knowing an excursion is being planned will give me incentive to get the others done. Both are partly done, so hopefully I should be able to finish them soon.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: G_Fours on August 16, 2012, 11:30:05
While not a huge concern watch your dates for fall caching. I don't know about deliverance, but I do know there is hunting October, November, December in area of the mossback final. A blaze orange hat or vest might not be a bad idea, or if you want to up the difficulty rating try a hat with antlers.

Here is a link with some of the Algonquin "harvest" dates.
http://www.bafn.ca/harvesting.html

We did our mossback trip in the middle of the season around lunch time. It seemed as most hunters preferred morning and evenings for harvesting. I'm sure someone like Model12 could offer better advice on the hunter's habits.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: model12 on August 16, 2012, 21:44:08
I'm sure someone like Model12 could offer better advice on the hunter's habits.

I have very seldom ever shot anything that walks on 2 legs and whistles..even geocachers.  ;)

You just do not want to be pissing off hunters by stomping around their hunting area during the season. Go earlier or later to be safe
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on August 19, 2012, 09:46:02
Thanks for the link G_Fours.

Algonquin "Harvest" dates begin the day after Thanksgiving.
I figure the best time for the Mossback trip would be the weekend of September 8, September 15 or September 22.

Based on distance and approximate completion time for each cache, separate trips would be ideal.
Personally, I am hoping to get both by Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Babushka_Qc on August 19, 2012, 14:13:44
Yes for Mossback. We are available on September 15 or 29. And 7 seats in the car, geodogs accepted.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on August 20, 2012, 07:06:55
I could certainly be convinced to go, so long as it's not an overnight trip.  The sooner we narrow down a specific date, the sooner I can confirm my attendance. Every date mentioned so far is fine for me.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on August 20, 2012, 12:01:46
It is great to see alot of interest in finding the two furthest binthair caches.
Outisde of this thread, I have two others who are interested in a group excursion for these two caches.

From what I understand, WP1 for Mossback, the farther of the two, is perhaps two hours from Ottawa.
So neither of these should be an overnight trip.

How does Saturday, September 15 (or Sunday, September 16) sound for Mossback?
By then the mosquitoes should be pretty well gone, and the likelihood of contiuous 30*C weather should be minimal.

Are there any other preferred dates?

Are there any initiation rituals for the All Finds Club that any of us should know about?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on August 20, 2012, 12:38:26
These will be my first Binthair caches :o so I am more worried about rituals for breaking in the newbies.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: kirok on August 20, 2012, 19:27:12
Are there any initiation rituals for the All Finds Club that any of us should know about?

First rule of the AFC is, don't talk about the AFC.   >:( :P

These will be my first Binthair caches :o so I am more worried about rituals for breaking in the newbies.

Newbies are required to find WP4 of Mossback without a harness. A healthy fear of heights is recommended.   ;)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: bluelamb03 on August 20, 2012, 21:25:32
Newbies are required to find WP4 of Mossback without a harness. A healthy fear of heights is recommended.   ;)

Heheheheheh.....

Blue -
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: model12 on August 20, 2012, 21:34:21
These will be my first Binthair caches :o so I am more worried about rituals for breaking in the newbies.

Goodbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Jamieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

*cue the banjos*
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Sakidoo on August 21, 2012, 01:03:11
I'd be interested in Deliverance.  It's a nice part of the Rideau Trail that I've hiked BG (before geocaching :D)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on August 21, 2012, 07:25:38
Well, I have a healthy fear of heights so were good on that front.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on August 22, 2012, 09:57:43
I think I'd be OK for the Sep 15 weekend.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on August 22, 2012, 16:34:12
I will confirm the 15th with my better half and re-confirm here. Shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on August 22, 2012, 19:00:55
So, Saturday, September 15 looks like a good date for our awesome 'Mossback' GeoMob.
I reckon we can hit 'Deliverance' during one of the two following weekends.

As for a "healthy fear of heights", I will let my actions during last year's Zombie GeoMob and during GAG16 speak for themselves.  ;D
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Woody06 on August 25, 2012, 16:12:56
I would also be interested in the Mossback trip on the 15th.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on August 30, 2012, 11:11:31
It looks like the response for 'Mossback' on Saturday, September 15 is overwhelmingly good.

How early does everyone want to meet before heading off to WP1?
Want to leave from Al's (near Clyde and Carling) around 8:00 that morning, or is there another prefered time?

Also, how many vehicles and passengers will be making the trip?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 01, 2012, 09:00:38
I have confirmed with my better half, and will be there with bells on (or at least one bell anyway).  I would love to get out of driving if that would be at all possible.  I can be at Al's early and agree that leaving from there would be a good idea.  The sooner we get started the sooner we get finished.  So in the words of the great Model12 "Shotgun!"

See you Sept 15th!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 03, 2012, 08:43:10
The plan for the trip to Mossback is good with me.  I can offer up 3 seats in exchange for assistance with the fuel costs.

I am also good for Deliverance on one of the following two weekends.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 04, 2012, 19:54:42
Two seats gone, one remaining!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 04, 2012, 21:27:30
I called shotgun..  I don't care which car I end up in, or who's gas I am buying.  Can someone save me a seat?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: portera on September 05, 2012, 05:05:28
I called shotgun..  I don't care which car I end up in, or who's gas I am buying.  Can someone save me a seat?

The rules of "Shotgun" clearly state that you must be within a distance of the vehicle that it can clearly be seen before calling. Geez!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 05, 2012, 07:12:20
I was just following in the footsteps of model12!  I am clueless of the actual rules to Shotgun! lol.

I will have to brush up on them...
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: portera on September 06, 2012, 08:29:44
It occurred to me that the keeper of all information - The Internet - must have the rules of shotgun somewhere. Well it does!

http://www.bored.com/shotgunguide/
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: valspad on September 06, 2012, 13:50:21
LOL :D
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 07, 2012, 06:15:45
Shotgun rules aren't going to matter.  I have a ride with a couple.  That puts me in the backseat immediately.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 11, 2012, 09:06:35
The trip is on!

After discussing this with yukonshawn there is a slight change in that we are going to make the meeting point waypoint one at 10:00.  Al's Diner is not that convenient for some of us, coupled with the problem of leaving cars near Al's all day.

Meeting at waypoint one allows the individual car groups to make their own gathering points at locations convenient to themselves.

At the moment there are two cars going up:

Car 1: Aleutian Islanders, yukonshawn, marvin_gardens and Woody06
Car 2: Babushka_Qc (2 people) and graciious

Another person to express an interest in going was geobob7, I have tried to contact him, but haven't heard anything back.

If there are any other people going, can you post here or contact me directly?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: The red-haired witch on September 11, 2012, 10:21:09
Well, looks like I'm actually free next Saturday, and I'd like to go for a hike (hoping total distance will be under 10 km... is it?)

Can I get a seat with Babushka?  Earlier post said there was room for 7  :)

(Meeting point is waypoint one of which of the two caches?)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 11, 2012, 10:58:01
I am pretty sure we're only doing the one cache (Mossback) but I could be wrong.  I am riding in the car with Babushka_qc so I am trying to figure out where to meet up.   I am in Orleans.

I can take the Moped only so far before it's not a fun ride anymore.  Waypoint one is beyond the fun distance, and it would take me about 12 hours to get there.  Let me know what you figure out.  If it's easier for me to get to the west end and grab a ride with someone else I can do that.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 11, 2012, 11:10:52
Sorry i have been a little slow responding to this.

Yes, the new meeting time and location are 10:00 am Saturday, September 15, at WP1 for Mossback.

As for hiking distance, from what I gather, this cache can be found using a combination of driving and hiking between waypoints. Perhaps a previous finder can confirm this, as well as the hypothetical hiking distance?

As for other caches, that will depend who you are with.
I will be loading GPX files from multiple other nearby caches onto my little eTrex.

The weather forecast for Saturday seems to be in constant flux.
Now the forecast is indicating mainly sunny skies and 26*C.

The following Saturday (Septmeber 22) will be another Binthair trip.
This time, our target will be 'Deliverance'.
That day, we will also have the added bonus of inducting at least one CCC member into the All Finds Club.

Exciting stuff! Hope to see you all there Saturday morning!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 11, 2012, 12:44:10
As a previous finder of Mossback and having visited the area again in mid-August, I can confirm the following:
Bottom line - this is one of the long drive/short walk Binthairs.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: The red-haired witch on September 11, 2012, 14:10:39
So about 6-7 hours of driving, for a couple of hours of hiking and one cache... mmm, I think I'll leave this expedition for you more "binthair-crazy" than me people then  :P

Maybe some day I'll go camping in Algonquin and I'll do the hike then.  But right now I'd rather spend more time in the woods and less in the car.  I've had an overdose of car travel ::)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: deepdowndawn on September 11, 2012, 14:47:33
You will walk around the Barron Canyon Trail. That is a 1.5 km loop.

This wasn't even on my radar until Xira's comment. I'm not binthair crazed since few of his caches are anywhere near my hood, but I got my first last weekend and Edgeman10 and I are actually canoeing the canyon this weekend. Sadly we won't be able to join you for the hunt, but look for us from up top! Maybe we'll stop and see how far we get with it if we have time on the way out.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 11, 2012, 21:14:29
We just found out that we are available this Saturday and would love to join the party.
We will be leaving Kanata North around 7AM. We have 2 extra spots available in our car if anybody is interested.

Does anybody know if there is a parking area at the posted coordinates? If the parking area is further away, should we wait at the parking lot or at the posted coordinates?

Looking forward to visiting the Algonquin park for the very first time.
Keep us in the loop if there is any change in plans.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 11, 2012, 21:44:47
Nice! The more people the merrier.

From what I have gathered from previous finders, we will be driving from WP1 to at least one more waypoint.
As Scotian is the local maintainer of this cache, he has been informed of our epic weekend geo-adventure.

I will have my cell with me, and can provide a contact number for whomever would like it.

As for other caches along the way, there are four traditionals (five if you count this guy:http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC107V4 (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC107V4)) along Baron Canyon Road between Highway 17 and WP1 of Mossback. There is also a mystery cache along the way to WP1.
Further along Baron Canyon road, there is an earth cache about 10km NW of WP1, for those who have never logged or attempted an earth cache.
My little eTrex now has the GPX files for these caches.

Edited to add: The posted co-ords for the earth cache (GC1X6ZG) are a parking lot at trailhead for the Barron Canyon Trail.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 12, 2012, 07:33:17
Anyone from the east or south end of Ottawa travelling to this event?  I am in Orleans...   I don't want to travel too far on my moped if I can avoid it.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 12, 2012, 14:36:01
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Does anybody know if there is a parking area at the posted coordinates? If the parking area is further away, should we wait at the parking lot or at the posted coordinates?

There isn't a parking area at or near WP1. However, the road is plenty wide so you can easily stop there to wait for everyone. There is an access road right there; you can pull onto it, if you prefer. The same is true for the final. 

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Edgeman10 and I are actually canoeing the canyon this weekend. Sadly we won't be able to join you for the hunt, but look for us from up top! Maybe we'll stop and see how far we get with it if we have time on the way out.

I strong recommend that you attempt to do it. At the very least, stop for Mossback's WP1 on your way into the area. Then you'll be better prepared for the option to finish it on your way out. It's quite interesting to see the canyon from both perspectives. You won't be sorry for making the extra effort.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 12, 2012, 21:51:46
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So about 6-7 hours of driving, for a couple of hours of hiking and one cache... mmm, I think I'll leave this expedition for you more "binthair-crazy" than me people then  Tongue

There's always the option of doing 'Deliverance' with us the following Saturday (September 22).

You can help Xira celebrate her initiation to the All Finds Club.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: deepdowndawn on September 13, 2012, 12:18:47
Hey everyone, I contacted yukonshawn and he suggested that I put this on the board's. Edgeman10 and I are planning on being in that area to canoe Barron Canyon, but it doesn't look like our timing is going to line up because we will be arriving Friday and hopefully already paddling by Saturday morning.

However, since such a large number of fellow Ottawa geocachers are going to be nearby, I was hoping to ask you guys a favour. We desperately need someone to shuttle our car from Achray campground (about 10k from the earthcache nearby) to the Barron Canyon parking lot at Squirrel Rapids (since our paddle is one-way). We were wondering if one of your cars would mind picking up our car while nearby and driving it down there on the way out. It's not a new car or anything so we don't car about scratches, or hitting moose or anything (there is already a huge dent in the front). If someone on the trip would be willing to do this, we can work something out. I should be at the workshop tonight and I will have a red blazer on since I'm not sure I will be able to recognize you. You can also contact me via my geocaching profile and I can figure out how to get the keys to you. any help would be MEGA-appreciated.

and good luck on Saturday! :)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 17, 2012, 21:56:07
The 'Mossback' trip was a success, despite the fact that it rained at every waypoint and even the final.
The eight of us had an awesome time and made quick work of the cache.
We even met up with Deepdownwoman and Edgeman10 as we stopped for lunch.

This Saturday (September 22), our goal is 'Deliverance'.
Let's meet at WP1 for, say, 10:00am.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: GreyingJay on September 18, 2012, 09:35:05
Congratulations! Those were two of my favourite binthair caches (not least because we had a group road trip much like yours).
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 18, 2012, 11:53:53
I've been planning for a long time for Deliverance to be my last Binthair. I want to thoroughly enjoy it, which means I want to do it when the weather's nice.

The forecast for this weekend is not looking very promising. For the Westport area, Environment Canada is predicting 30% of showers and the Weather Network is predicting 10-15 mm of rain.

Weather forecasts can change. I propose that we wait until Thursday, or even Friday, to see if things improve. If they don't, then I suggest that we postpone Deliverance to another day. Sunday is fine with me, and I'm ok with leaving it to next weekend, too.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 18, 2012, 23:11:40
We agree with Xira: Deliverance seems to be a 3h-long binthairian hike, and with what binthair usually throws at us, we would rather go on a day when weather is not adding extra stars to the terrain rating.

With all the rain that came down today and what is expected to come down on Friday/Saturday, I would expect the terrain to be very muddy and not fun at all, even if we are lucky enough to catch a few rays of sun while we are there.

At this point we cast our vote for moving the road trip to next week.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 19, 2012, 10:25:07
My vote is to postpone, there will be much better weekends weather wise before winter comes.  Besides, I can use the extra time this weekend to clean the mud out of the back of the van from the previous trip!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: model12 on September 19, 2012, 10:46:20
Fall is by far the best time to go for Deliverance. Keep in mind that hunting for small game has already started, and there will probably be an increase in hunters out and about when Ruffed Grouse starts this coming weekend.  ;D

Certainly get it before deer season opens the first week of November.  :o
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 19, 2012, 11:35:24
If the majority are in favour of postponing this by one week, then I'm all for it.
Hopefully the weather co-operates better than it has during the last week.

Instead, this weekend could be dedicated toward finding new locations for GAG18 caches or digging up Buried Treasure.
Would anyone else like to unearth Buried Treasure?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 19, 2012, 11:40:43
GC code???
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 19, 2012, 12:18:27
I'm assuming YukonShawn means Hidden Treasure, which is GC4EDB (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4edb (http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4edb). The best time to find that one is in the spring, with late fall being the next best. It has never found during the winter.

It has been found during September a few times. Patience and/or lots of eyes are great assets.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 19, 2012, 15:58:33
That's correct, I meant Hidden Treasure.
I've had the solution to this one since May, made my first unsuccessful go in mid-June, followed by another brief attempt on Labour Day weekend.

As Xira confirms, early-spring is the best time for this one.
It was last found on April 3, by Marvin Gardens.

There was even one year where it was found numerous times during July, surprisingly enough.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on September 19, 2012, 18:28:58
Would anyone else like to unearth Buried Treasure?

I'll be your huckleberry.

The following weekend looks to be great for the road trip (at the moment).
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: GreyingJay on September 20, 2012, 09:53:00
Muhahahaha, I wish you guys best of luck at Hidden Treasure.

Goodness knows I spent many hours sitting in that field.

I loved the puzzle, that has to be one of the coolest puzzle solutions I've ever seen. That's also how I discovered my younger brother spanks me at math. I showed him the puzzle expecting him to be as surprised as I was and he just said "Well, OK, let's assume r and theta and..." and he scribbled on a notepad and came up with the answer in about 30 seconds. Doh!

As for the search itself, it seems like some people get extremely lucky and find it within minutes. Maybe you'll be one of them!

Just don't bring along someone who has already found it to "help". Or if you do, wait about 10 minutes and then ask to look under their feet where they're standing ;)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on September 20, 2012, 10:18:54
Damn! Just realized I'll be out of town for the weekend of 28-30. Guess I'll have to miss out on the Deliverance road trip. :'(
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Woody06 on September 21, 2012, 18:28:14
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Would anyone else like to unearth Buried Treasure?

If it's not too late, I'd like to get in on the hunt for Hidden Treasure too. When were you planning on going?

I should also be able to go next week for the Deliverance trip.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on September 22, 2012, 00:00:04
Looking at the weather forecast, Hidden Treasure would probably be best left for Sunday.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 22, 2012, 07:16:33
Agreed.
I'm thinking maybe early-afternoon on Sunday.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Woody06 on September 22, 2012, 15:45:15
Sunday afternoon sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on September 22, 2012, 21:31:13
Where and when should wr meet up?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 24, 2012, 21:30:00
So...

Deliverance this Saturday at 10:00am.

As of now, the weather forecast calls for a mix of sun and cloud with a chance of showers and 15*C.

Who is still in?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 25, 2012, 07:59:34
If it's going to be cloudy with the possibility of rain, however light, then I'd prefer to postpone again.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 25, 2012, 11:03:01
The Weather Network for Westport is saying Cloudy with Showers (70% chance of precipitation).
We are OK to postpone, but we will not be able to make it on the Thanksgiving WE.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Sens-eh on September 27, 2012, 09:11:28
Hidden Treasure

I will be looking for this at 6PM Friday evening with rusmart and her mom and also venturer_catt who though he found it before didn't have a pen and wants to refind it so he can sign the log. 

Woody, geobob and yukon I know you guys have been looking a lot lately - if you want to come back out Friday evening then maybe with more people someone will be lucky enough to stumble across it. 

All invited!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 27, 2012, 11:50:05
The weather forecast for this weekend is improving. It's not great yet, as in not guaranteed to be at least occasionally sunny, but the POP is decreasing and the temperature will be nice. Part of me wants to go and find Deliverance and part of me wants to keep postponing. I could go on the Saturday or Monday of the long weekend but I realize that's unlikely for many of you. I already know that I'm busy the following Saturday morning (Oct 13).

How do the rest of you feel about this? Are you keen to go sooner than later? If so, then I'll join you. But if you're OK with waiting a bit longer, I'm OK with that, too.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 27, 2012, 12:08:38
I am pretty flexible so can go either day this weekend, and will also be available the following weekend.  When planning whether to bike or drive to work I usually figure that 30% POP can be treated as meaning its not going to rain, so will be happy to go this weekend.

I can offer up a car/van again, if anyone wants a ride.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: marvin_gardens on September 27, 2012, 12:29:51
Part of me wants to go and find Deliverance and part of me wants to keep postponing.

It's time to let it go, Xira.  I know the binthairs have been a fun challenge for you, and you don't want the fun to be over. :'(    You'll meet new challenges and still have lots of fun.  :D


I'll reserve a seat with you AI.  I can go either day this weekend, but my preference is for Sunday.  Thanks again for driving (again)

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 27, 2012, 12:50:06
Ah, the postponing bit has nothing to do with not wanting to be finished. I WANT to be finished. I'm looking forward to having finished all the Binthairs.

The postponing is because this is my last one and I want it to be perfect. Being dripping wet, slip-sliding my way along a trail, and having grey-tone pictures is not my idea of perfect.

I agree with Aleutian Islanders that 30% POP means no or neglible preciptation. The weather network is promising variable cloudiness, which I hope means at least as much sun as cloud. For that reason, I'm willing to gamble and go this weekend. If the forecast suddenly degrades, then I might choose to bow out.

I can go either day. The weather forecasts has me leaning toward choosing Saturday.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 27, 2012, 15:00:52
The 2 of us are in for this Saturday!
Just like last time, we have 2 extra seats if anyone wants to join us. We are leaving from Kanata North.

So, is that 10AM at the posted coordinates?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 27, 2012, 15:20:45
Something has come up since the last email, so now Sunday is the only day for me.

One seat gone!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 27, 2012, 19:48:13
Sunday is the better day for me this weekend, though I can't be out too late, as we're hosting company Sunday evening.

As for 'Hidden Treasure' on Friday evening; I plan to join you.
However, since I'm coming in from Nepean, I will likely arrive a little later; around 6:15 to 6:30.

What are equipment are you bringing for the search?
I have an old pair of winter gloves and a ski pole, which should help.
While there on Sunday, we also had a rake.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Sens-eh on September 27, 2012, 20:58:23
For Hidden Treasure - Good to hear you will be out Yukonshawn.

I plan to bring my hiking poles and a rake. venturer_catt has mentioned to me something or other about some sort of hand held rototiller type device. I'm not too clear on the details, - but he has something or other that he is planning to bring. Pretty sure he won't be actually rototilling the field though! Lol 

Gloves are a good idea, I am always forgetting to bring out gloves if it's not winter...

 
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 28, 2012, 01:03:22
HIDDEN TREASURE

We just solved the puzzle and would love to join the party this Friday evening.
Like yukonshawn, we are coming from the west (Kanata) so we expect to be a bit late as well (same timeframe as yukonshawn).

We will have our hiking sticks with us and some spares if anyone wants to use one to poke the ground.
See you all there!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 28, 2012, 01:17:15
DELIVERANCE

So to summarize (hopefully I did not miss anybody):

Some of the interested cachers are NOT available on:
- this Saturday
- thanksgiving WE
- Saturday the 13th
I think that we can also safely assume that the WE of the 20th is not an option either because of GAG18.

So, if we want to avoid deer hunting season (starting first week of November according to model12), that leave us with:
- this Sunday, with not great but most likely OK weather
- Sunday the 14th (my birthday) - unknown weather
- WE of 27th - unknown weather

Considering that we have no idea what the weather is going to be like on the two last options, it sounds like a safer bet to go look for the cache this Sunday.

Does everybody interested agree with the assessment?
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 28, 2012, 07:35:50
That seems like a fair summary, although you don't mention the continually changing weather forecast.  Sunday's forecast has deteriorated and is now cloudy with showers 40% POP or cloudy with showers 70% POP, depending where you get it from. 

I'm game to continue and have two takers for seats, marvin_gardens and yukonshawn.  I'll have the van again, so can take three more in reasonable comfort.

If the weather forecast gets worse I am OK with postponing at the last minute, but for now we are on.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 28, 2012, 07:51:53

venturer_catt has mentioned to me something or other about some sort of hand held rototiller type device.


That sounds rather alarming and might end up making the treasure permanently hidden.  Hopefully it is not quite what it sounds.

What I would suggest is some string and pegs or some other means to facilitate a systematic search pattern.  I found it back in March when there was much less vegetation and it was a tough task even then.  I used my bag, coat, sweater etc. to try and mark areas I had searched. I visited the spot again a few weeks ago with yukonshawn and we had a half-hearted search, but it was pretty obvious a cunning plan was needed to be able to make the find, although I don't think defoliation is appropriate.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Sens-eh on September 28, 2012, 07:55:52
Hidden Treasure

Great to hear you will come out tonight cd. cuts.  

Seeing as to how there are a few of you westenders now who need a bit more time  - then I'd say if we aim for 6:15 it will be fine.  I was trying to maximize sunlight time, but from all reports it's really not visible to the eye regardless of the sunlight!

I've now heard buddysally will be out as well - she's found it before but wants to get some other caches in the area after we are done with hidden treasure.

Don't worry Aluetien islanders - perhaps I gave you the wrong impression - nobody will be breaking dirt - I think it is just something to roll along on the ground.   I think also that clearing the vegetation with a flame thrower would also be frowned upon!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: GreyingJay on September 28, 2012, 09:55:59
Don't worry Aluetien islanders - perhaps I gave you the wrong impression - nobody will be breaking dirt - I think it is just something to roll along on the ground.   I think also that clearing the vegetation with a flame thrower would also be frowned upon!

And you can see from the logs that this idea has been mentioned before ;)

Most people seem to find the cache by accident by stepping on it. The geomob tried a "form a line" search pattern once and it was not successful. I tried to find it once with Nikon Guy and I threw my backpack down at my "zero" point and went in a radius out. We gave up after an hour and it was only when he accidentally stepped on it that we found it... less than two meters from where my backpack was lying. Doh!

Happy hunting tonight!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: graciious on September 28, 2012, 10:36:22
I've been out of commission for a few days, but if this is still going on, can someone send me a txt message?  613-983-6904  I can be there for 6:15 without a problem.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: elyob on September 28, 2012, 10:56:27
Hidden Treasure

The level of light won't make any difference.  Finding the top of that container is just plain random.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: bluelamb03 on September 28, 2012, 11:03:43
 ???
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Most people seem to find the cache by accident by stepping on it. The geomob tried a "form a line" search pattern once and it was not successful.
  ???

GreyingJay is incorrect, only when we put 5 people in line abreast and shuffled through our grid that we found it, after several previous attempts. Once you're in the GZ just be systematic, you'll eventually step on it.

Good luck,

Blue -
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 28, 2012, 11:15:50
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I think also that clearing the vegetation with a flame thrower would also be frowned upon!

I have suggested this numreous times.
Unfortunately, I lacked fire-making rudiments during each visit.

If anyone has small garden stakes and/or flagging tape, bringing it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Sens-eh on September 28, 2012, 11:25:45
Hidden Treasure

Text sent to graciious.  

Ok! Now we are starting to get some numbers for this evening.

Sens-eh
rusmart
Venturer_catt
Yukonshawn
cd. Cuts
buddysally
graciious

And that's not counting how many of those names might actually be two or more people.  

Unfortunately, neither woody or geobob have chimed in - I tried contacting woody through groundspeak but it seems like the email option might not be working (it is not cc'ing my email on it anyhow).  if anyone has more direct communications with them ... Perhaps you could give them a holler....

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: GreyingJay on September 28, 2012, 13:03:35
GreyingJay is incorrect, only when we put 5 people in line abreast and shuffled through our grid that we found it, after several previous attempts. Once you're in the GZ just be systematic, you'll eventually step on it.

I should clarify, the one geomob attempt during which I was present, failed to find it using a line search. That was the day we had eight people searching for an hour and I declared that we had spent the equivalent of a full day's work trying to find the cache.

You did find it a few weeks later on a return visit, but I didn't know you did the line search again.

Good luck tonight!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: hidnseek on September 28, 2012, 13:05:24
GreyingJay is incorrect, only when we put 5 people in line abreast and shuffled through our grid that we found it, after several previous attempts. Once you're in the GZ just be systematic, you'll eventually step on it.

I should clarify, the one geomob attempt during which I was present, failed to find it using a line search. That was the day we had eight people searching for an hour and I declared that we had spent the equivalent of a full day's work trying to find the cache.

You did find it a few weeks later on a return visit, but I didn't know you did the line search again.

Good luck tonight!



When you arrive, put the GPS down and let it settle in one place, then adjust as you need.

Good luck!!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on September 28, 2012, 21:26:12
Congratulations to everyone who was in on the find at Hidden Treasure this evening!

With that find, YukonShawn only needs to find Through the Looking Glass in order to join me on the threshold of the AFC. Aleutian Islanders is also very close, needing only to find Through the Looking Glass and Bonnie and Clyde. IMHO, neither of those caches is worthy of the being a final Binthair.

So, I propose that we once again postpone the visit to Deliverance. One reason is that the weather is not looking very promising. But another reason is if we wait another week or two, there could be 3 entrants to the AFC. The trip to Deliverance, then, will be so much more of a party.

I would encourage those of you who were keen to find Deliverance on Sunday to use that day to find Through the Looking Glass and/or make the trip out to Bonnie and Clyde instead.

I think I'm the holdout for October 13. I have a non-negociable commitment at 9:30. It will probably be done by 11:00 and for sure by 12:00. So in addition to the days that cd.cuts listed earlier, October 13 could be a candidate, but we'd have to meet at WP1 at 2:00 instead of 10 a.m.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: kirok on September 28, 2012, 21:49:01
Congrats everyone!   For your next challenge, try finding it again in three years, only this time have someone remove the cache first, and only look for the HOLE!   :D :P
Back in 2009, G_fours tried to find the cache on a few occasions, but then only found a hole where the cache once was.  A quick trip to Home Depot for some replacement parts, a bit of plumbers glue, a new logbook, and having to find the hole that the needle left in the haystack, and voila!, I had a new cache ready for him to return and find.  I'm happy to see that the new container has survived this long, I'm hoping due to the added drainage holes in the bottom??

I still enjoy reading new logs on some of these old favorites.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 29, 2012, 07:57:35

So, I propose that we once again postpone the visit to Deliverance. One reason is that the weather is not looking very promising. But another reason is if we wait another week or two, there could be 3 entrants to the AFC. The trip to Deliverance, then, will be so much more of a party.


I am going to sit on the fence on this one.  I was the hold out for today and feel quite guilty as today looks to be a good day weather wise!  The weather forecast for Sunday has deteriorated yet again, so I am not averse to re-postponing, but I will leave that up to my passengers.  I do have an alternate plan in place with yukonshawn to continue the search for Through The Looking Glass if Deliverance doesn't happen.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: marvin_gardens on September 29, 2012, 16:43:34
Congrats on finding Hidden Treasure!  I was a bit concerned I'd get another nasty email if the cache went missing.  Thanks Kirok for maintaining these.

As for Deliverance, the forecast for Perth as of 5pm is 80% POP, with 1mm of rain.  I'd go based on the 1mm of rain. Aleutian, since its your car, you need to decide if you want a bunch of muddy/wet fools in and out of the car.

No worries about not going.  The induction of three (3) more AFC members sounds like the best reason to postpone it. If we don't go, I've got two, maybe 3 other east end Binthairs waiting to get found.  Sat Oct 13th works best for me as the next time.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 29, 2012, 17:06:48
The forecast for Westport is saying rain all day, 5mm.
Somehow that  doesn't make us look forward to going.

However, we do not want to miss out.

So, if somebody writes here by 10PM that they are going for sure, we will come as well. But currently our preference is to postpone until the 13/14, which will give a chance to have more AFC members on that day.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on September 29, 2012, 17:23:38
Due to a combination of the weather and my schedule, I would also prefer to delay our trip.
If it is absolutely certain that people are going tomorrow, I will likely join. However, I have to be home by 4:30pm, which doesn't leave very much time for caching.

I'm good for Saturday and Sunday next weekend, as well as Saturday, October 13.
As for later dates, I'm out of town for a week, starting Sunday, October 14, but should be back for GAG.

The possible induction of three members is tempting.
However, the longer we wait, the less likely we are to benefit from favourable weather.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on September 29, 2012, 17:34:45
As we have said before, we will be out of town for the entire Thanksgiving WE.

So the only chances that we ever find this cache all together before deer hunting season are:
   a) This Sunday - not super great weather, nobody seems ecstatic about it
   b) Saturday, the 13th after 2PM
   c) Sunday 21st (i.e. the day after GAG)
   d) WE of 27/28

We will come on the first day that somebody confirms they are going for sure.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on September 29, 2012, 18:28:52
In email discussions with the occupants of my car (yukonshawn and marvin_gardens) the consensus is to wait, so given cd.cuts' comments I think we are all agreed on postponing.  I guess we will be resuming discussions about the next possible date soon, at this point I will be available for all dates.

Tomorrow I will be searching again for Through The Looking Glass tags with yukonshawn, we are only at the second tag, so if anyone wants to join us, more sets of eyes will be welcome, especially given our repeated failure to find the second tag.  I am not sure what time we will be heading there, that is to be determined, but if anyone is interested in joining us can you contact me directly.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Woody06 on September 30, 2012, 19:12:24
I will also be out of town Thanksgiving weekend, but I would be able to go on Saturday, Oct. 13.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on October 01, 2012, 12:04:56
Huge congratulations to marvin_gardens for finishing up 4 of the more demanding Binthairs yesterday. WOW! He just has Deliverance left to do. I'm now hoping for 4 entrants to the AFC. And I'm really, really hoping for great weather on October 13!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: GreyingJay on October 01, 2012, 12:29:07
Congratulations all!

I'm glad you didn't try for this Sunday -- the rain was drizzling all day long and it was cold and miserable (even though I spent all afternoon at an outdoor concert.. doh!)
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: geobob7 on October 01, 2012, 18:45:46
Sorry I missed out on the Hidden Treasure find, but I was down in the Finger Lakes region with our walking club for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I would probably be able to go for Deliverance sometime on the Thanksgiving weekend, but it appears that is not popular with anyone. I will likely have to miss out on Deliverance since I will be on a hiking trip down in Arizona from the 13th to 18th of October. I have also solved Bonnie and Clyde, so if anyone else is going for that one I would like to tag along. After Arizona I won't be going anywhere else till next year.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: marvin_gardens on October 01, 2012, 20:34:47
Huge congratulations to marvin_gardens for finishing up 4 of the more demanding Binthairs yesterday. WOW! He just has Deliverance left to do. I'm now hoping for 4 entrants to the AFC. And I'm really, really hoping for great weather on October 13!

Thanks for the kudos Xira.  It sounds impressive when you put it that way, but each cache had been attempted at least twice in the past before. (either partial or unsuccessfully).  My motivation was being inducted into the AFC along with hopefully 3 others.  Oh and it rained each time I got close to the cache, except for Lifesaver...that one I got a soaker.  :D
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on October 01, 2012, 21:28:12
So, now it's looking like we will have four new inductees to the AFC on October 13.

Four Binthairs in one day is pretty impressive regardless.
And some of those were pretty long walks and/or required some pretty tough slogs.


Quote
Oh and it rained each time I got close to the cache, except for Lifesaver...that one I got a soaker.
 

I still have nightmares about our bushwhack to and from 'Life Saver'.
Aleutian Islanders and I picked one of the worst possible days to grab this one.

Depending on your approach, I imagine the slog to 'Maximum Surprise' could also have been quite brutal.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on October 01, 2012, 22:09:13
Great work everybody!
Quite an impressive record for a number of cachers in the past few weeks!

We have also done our homework (I mean outdoorswork) recently and we should be reaching binthair #22 at Deliverance with the AFC group, which would be a half-binthair.
Not sure that we will ever reach the AFC, but you never know. Time will tell...

Looking forward to witness the upcoming quadruple milestone.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: penguins42 on October 02, 2012, 11:21:48
You can bring that number up to five...  After seeing marvin_gardens' batch of logs for Sunday, I've decided that I want in on the fun too!

I have already found DELIVERANCE, so while I can't actually join the AFC at the same cache, I can do my final binthair on the same day and accompany the DELIVERANCE group.  I was a little short on time when I did the cache and only did part of the walk but would love to do it in its entirety.  I'm going to make a push to finish up my remaining caches in the next week.  That is everything but Four Tall Ones which I would get the morning of DELIVERANCE.

With myself included, that makes all the cachers who have found 30+ binthair caches in the last year potential AFC inductees on the same day.  I can make it on the 13th or any of the dates cd.cuts mentioned.  The only date of the month which I'm not available is Oct 14th.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on October 02, 2012, 12:32:25
You can bring that number up to five...  After seeing marvin_gardens' batch of logs for Sunday, I've decided that I want in on the fun too!

Yahoo!! Penguins42 is my Binthair partner. I'm thrilled she's going to be part of the AFC party at Deliverance.

I'll take the liberty of letting you know that she has found but not logged 2 Binthairs: Belly Button, and Benches and Bearings. (If I were cleverer with words, I'd do something with that alliteration!) She just has 5 left to go. The Missing Link is the big challenge among them. We're getting together tomorrow to finish it up.

BTW: Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on October 09, 2012, 11:00:19
So, it looks like we're still on for 'Deliverance' this Saturday.

I have seen mixed results for the weather forecast; some models indicate showers, while other models indicate a mix of sun and clouds. Nailing the forecast from four days out is still a longshot, so we will know better in a day or two.

From what I recall, there was one participant who could only make it by 2:00pm.
Please refresh my memory regarding this issue, before we agree on a meeting time.

See you Saturday!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: portera on October 09, 2012, 11:29:06
I will be very close by, but will be unable to join up. Bummer... It's one of my last few.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on October 09, 2012, 13:54:47
I'm the reason we're not starting until 2:00 if we go this Saturday.

I have a meeting I must attend at 9:30 in the morning. I've advised the chairperson that I will leave at noon-hour, which gets me to WP1 for 2:00. I suspect we'll actually be done around 11:00 but I can't be sure of that.

I, too, have been watching the weather forecasts for this weekend. Got my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: yukonshawn on October 09, 2012, 21:08:06
I'm perfectly fine with meeting at WP1 for 2:00 pm this Saturday.
This means I can sleep in, which is awesome.

Is everyone else good with 2:00 pm?
I personally plan to be in the area a little earlier to grab a few other nearby caches.

Ron, will you be able to make it there for 2:00?
The more people the merrier.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: portera on October 09, 2012, 22:42:27
We'll be at Camp IAWAH for our annual church retreat. I suppose I could sneak away, but that's generally considered bad form. :)

I suspect the AFC will have to wait yet another year for me.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Aleutian Islanders on October 11, 2012, 08:54:52
I've been holding off posting, as on previous attempts at making this trip the weather forecast seemed to be changing on a daily basis, but this time it has been consistently OK, so hopefully it will be third time lucky.

I figure on a little over 1.5 hours to drive up, so I am planning to arrive at waypoint 1 at 2:00pm, but will be setting off at 10:00am to give us a couple of hours to grab some geocaches and lunch on the way up.

I have two passengers so far and room for three more and am near Richmond Road/417 if any one else wants a ride, we will be sharing fuel costs.

Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: penguins42 on October 11, 2012, 14:42:01
My online logs don't reflect it, but I now only have Four Tall Ones to find.  So I'm ready to go!  (I intend to post my logs before the outing.)

Saturday at 2pm at WP1 works fine for me.  The forecast, while not spectacular, has improved over the last couple of days.  In particular it looks like the rain has shifted to Saturday night and Sunday.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on October 12, 2012, 11:23:14
The 2 of us are in!
We have 2 extra spots available in our car for anybody interested in leaving from Kanata North.

Just wondering: is anybody interested in trying GC2DRV1 (What Lies within' 2) beforehand?
It is a 4.5/5 cave cache. Weather should be good to try it (i.e. no rain forecasted). If you want to come, please make sure to read the description+logs beforehand.

Let us know if you want to go with us meeting at the trailhead at, let's say, 11AM. We reserve the right to change our mind if nobody responds.

We will be checking the forum until 10PM this evening.

See you all tomorrow.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on October 12, 2012, 12:39:03
Tomorrow's forecast for Westport:

So, it's a go! Yahoo!

In light of the fact that the better part of the day is going to be earlier than later, I'm going to offer the following suggestion. I think my meeting might be done by 11:00. Will every car going there have at least one phone in it? If so, I could call one of you at 11:00 to say if I'm done or not, that person calls someone else, and so on, the end result being that we could meet at 1:00 (or 1:30) instead of 2:00. If there's at least one car that doesn't have a phone in it, then this can't work.

I realize this is complicated and interferes with cd.cuts proposal in the previous post, so I'm perfectly fine with anyone saying that it's easier to just meet at 2:00. I just feel it's better to make the proposal and have it fail than finding tomorrow that I wished I had done it but didn't.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: penguins42 on October 12, 2012, 19:07:05
I'm up for doing the cave cache!  Meeting at 11 at the trailhead sounds good to me.  (I could be there by 10:30 instead if others are interested in Xira's suggestion.)

I'll be travelling alone, but do have a phone and have given Xira my number.  Assuming the cave cache goes well I'd be open to starting a little earlier if it works for everyone.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: cd.cuts on October 12, 2012, 20:12:55
We have confirmed with penguins42 that we will meet at the trailhead of the cave cache at 11AM.
So far it will be her and us, but anybody else is more than welcome to join us.

We will plan on arriving at the DELIVERANCE trailhead at 2PM unless we receive a phone call telling us otherwise. However, we expect cell phone reception to be poor at best in this area.

See you all tomorrow.
Title: Re: Binthair Roadtrip: Mossback and Deliverance
Post by: Xira on October 12, 2012, 20:58:34
The point about dubious phone service is a good one. Consider the idea scrapped. We'll meet at 2:00.

I'm looking forward to this!