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Tech Talk => Paperless and Mobile Caching => Topic started by: Tegiro on October 24, 2011, 07:53:30

Title: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 24, 2011, 07:53:30
Wondering if anyone has used Geocaching.com's mobile apps program for android cell phones.
Their website lists the app as: Geocaching for Android Applications.
The photo displays seem to look good, but not sure if its all it says it is.

I have purchased a Samsung Galaxy Ace and would like to try a geocaching app with it.
I have read the threads on geocaching apps but a lot deals with Blackberry units, which I don't have.

If there are better geocaching apps for android cell phones I would also like to hear their opinions.
 
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: graciious on October 24, 2011, 09:55:36
I used it and hated it at first.. then it got a major overhaul.  The program works good for paperless info but I never found the GPS to be very accurate.  It was after all a cell phone however..

I really only used it once or twice to log finds after I realized it's limitations.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: bluelamb03 on October 24, 2011, 11:02:46
Don't buy it thinking you can leave the GPSr at home! Very few phones have a decent enough GPS to make that worthwhile, instead buy it for the paperless geocaching and for the ability to look at caches on the GC.com site if you're willing to use up your data plan.

Blue -
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: graciious on October 24, 2011, 13:05:04
For android there is a great program that I just remembered...  C:geo there are two of them listed on the marketplace.  One is free and one is out of date and not supported by the owner (it was also free)

The program lets you download all the info from the pocket queries, including pictures and everything.  It takes a while to load the caches I remember adding a 1000 caches from a single query over night but once it's loaded it keeps all the info close at hand and finding the one you want was pretty straight forward.

If you need more info drop me a message.

I also suggest you get a drycase for your phone, cause they don't do so good in the water.  I recently fell into a creek (another geocaching accident) and my brand new (in May) Galaxy S got ruined.

I am back to a blackberry for now.. we'll see how things work out with my android.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 24, 2011, 14:10:53
I used it and hated it at first.. then it got a major overhaul.  The program works good for paperless info but I never found the GPS to be very accurate.  It was after all a cell phone however..

I really only used it once or twice to log finds after I realized it's limitations.

Looking at the pros and cons it looks like my Garmin 60CSx will be my main driver.
I might use an android app for geocaching simply to be able to read the information for caches i have difficulties finding on sites. Or, I might just use my web browser and navigate to geocaching.com and view the cache info that way. I'm not sure what is the best way, an adroid app to view cache info or simply use my browser to go and read info at geocaching.com

I usually log my finds immediately that same day so doing it on the run with my cell phone won't be a choice for me.

Its still all an experiment to me so far.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 24, 2011, 14:14:04
For android there is a great program that I just remembered...  C:geo there are two of them listed on the marketplace.  One is free and one is out of date and not supported by the owner (it was also free)

The program lets you download all the info from the pocket queries, including pictures and everything.  It takes a while to load the caches I remember adding a 1000 caches from a single query over night but once it's loaded it keeps all the info close at hand and finding the one you want was pretty straight forward.

If you need more info drop me a message.

I also suggest you get a drycase for your phone, cause they don't do so good in the water.  I recently fell into a creek (another geocaching accident) and my brand new (in May) Galaxy S got ruined.

I am back to a blackberry for now.. we'll see how things work out with my android.

I read quite a bit on the internet about C:geo. I might give it a try if the free one is still available.
Thanks
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: bluelamb03 on October 24, 2011, 14:15:44
Searching for a cache on GC.com with your phone browser can be a pain, the GC.com app will let you "find nearest" either off your saved PQ or from the website, quick and easy!

Blue -
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 24, 2011, 14:23:50
I think a lot of this will be a learning experience and I thank you all for the good suggestions so far offered.
Perhaps GC app would be good to read the info and I may try that also.

I seldom have to find more info when geocaching but there are a few times when I'm far from home and "really" have to find it so I don't have to drive all the way back that viewing some of the logs or reading again the cache info "on site" might help me.

So I will experiment to see what is best out there...but still use my Garmin 60CSx.

Thanks
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: graciious on October 24, 2011, 21:31:34
My Galaxy is out at the repair shop due to some damage but when I get it back I will let you try out the GC App for android and C:geo on the same device, we can meet up for a quick drink and talk apps.  There are some good ones for the android but IMHO C:geo is the way to go.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 25, 2011, 05:40:16
My Galaxy is out at the repair shop due to some damage but when I get it back I will let you try out the GC App for android and C:geo on the same device, we can meet up for a quick drink and talk apps.  There are some good ones for the android but IMHO C:geo is the way to go.

Thanks graciious.
Just pm me when you can find the time to meet and I'll buy  :)
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: JoMari on October 27, 2011, 16:07:48
I've been using C:geo for quite a while now. Not so much for finding caches but for accessing info on the go. You can see what caches are close to you at any given time. It even supports live maps so you can see what caches are near you as you move around. The feature I use the most is when an email comes in, I can open the cache in c:geo and look at the map, or satellite view right away to see where it is located. It is also useful in that it uses the Navigate feature and can give you turn by turn directions to the cache location. It is still available for free. They changed developers not so long ago, thats the difference from the old version (carneo) to the new open source version. Give it a try, you got nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tegiro on October 27, 2011, 18:24:31
That will probably be my main reason to use such an app (C:Geo), to read the logs or the cache info, as my GPSr does not have all that info. I know there were times i had difficulty finding a cache and had wondered if I had missed a log with a DNF recently or more. It would be nice to confirm on the spot.
I have a Nuvî350 for driving so I might not need the turn by turn route to a cache with C:Geo.
Still in the experimenta l stage  ;)

Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: Tromelin on February 23, 2012, 21:12:13
So far I've been using the geocaching.com app (for Android). Junglehair kinda forced me to buy it. I haven't found the accuracy with cellphone to be too bad, in fact, once it brought me closer to the cache than my Oregon (just make sure your phone has a internal gps antenna and not just use towers). The app gets you the closest caches and is somewhat faster than using a browser to get photos and latest logs. Having maps and satellite photos is nice too. They now let you log trackables too which was missing before.

The main problem with phone caching is that the battery life on the phone just isn't there. Perhaps if you turn off the screen.

I do also have C:Geo on my phone but I have yet to use it to find a cache. Considering the price, that's likely the better option, not sure one needs to spend money to look at your souvenirs.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: geonerding on February 23, 2012, 22:45:53
I use C: Geo and found that it's ease of use was a little tricky at times but since owning it there's already been some upgrades to the program. I also contemplated about getting the android app as well however having the I phone app defeats the purpose of having to pay twice for an application.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: TyggerBob on March 14, 2012, 08:12:03
I tried both, and I LOVE C:Geo. It's has all the features I need, including mobile logging, cache details, and trackable management.  I agree about the GPS in the Androids though.. I find it very inaccurate or sometimes unable to lock in at all, and certainly wouldn't go out with my Map60Cx for the actual finding.
Tyg
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: geonerding on March 14, 2012, 21:50:14
I tried both, and I LOVE C:Geo. It's has all the features I need, including mobile logging, cache details, and trackable management.  I agree about the GPS in the Androids though.. I find it very inaccurate or sometimes unable to lock in at all, and certainly wouldn't go out with my Map60Cx for the actual finding.
Tyg

I tried to use the GPS feature with C:Geo it is infact off although I wonder how accurate it might be on other android/Iphone/BB and such phones.. It might have something to do with the actual gps chip in different phones.
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: bluelamb03 on March 15, 2012, 09:42:52
I've encountered 'new' cachers using dedicated handheld GPSrs who were 'off' all the time too, and discovered that their unit was set to a different datum. Remember that GC.com uses WGS84 but most GPSrs can be set to other datums, much to the chagrin of the geocacher who's always 20 meters off the GZ!

Does the phone or C:Geo have a choice of datum system to use or is it just plain inaccurate? My iPhone 3G is horrible, 17m accuracy is the best I've managed, but the iPhone 4 is very good indeed!

Blue -
Title: Re: Geocaching for Android Applications (By Geocaching.com)
Post by: BlackRose67 on May 19, 2012, 19:55:55
The GPS chips in most phones are not that great to begin with.

I used c:geo when I was testing the geocaching waters last year (I now use NeonGeo since c:geo apparently violates the GC.com TOU and is not an approved app, as great as it is).

I don't recall if c:geo had an option to change datums.
With NeonGeo you can select DD MM.MMM format or decimal format, but that's all.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S (GT-i9000m) Android phone and the GPS was horrible until I tweaked it (required rooting the phone).
It got even better when I installed a European ROM on the device.

Even after all the tweaks, loading a better ROM, the results are still not as good as a dedicated GPSr unit.

For paperless caching, loading up PQs, creating field notes for logging, and reading log entries when you're thoroughly stumped, the apps are great.   
The screen on my phone is about 3 times the size of the one on my GPSr (Garmin eTrex 20)...reading logs loaded from a PQ on the GPSr is a challenge.